SEC-E9 vs. Condor Dolphin which is better?

The answer to the question depends on your needs , forget for now cheap or expensive , and look at what you need it for ;
Before deciding to buy xhorse Dolphin or sec-e9, please ask yourself these questions:
are you looking to cut occasional keys , a lot of keys ?

do you want updates and latest keyways first ?

do you want a machine for now or a machine for many years ?

do you want a machine that holds its value so you get a decent rate when you sell on rather than a worthless bit of kit , decide what you want and what coverage you want reliably then fit the right machine to your needs

HERE is the biggest factor you will want to look at right now

copies most type of key

kukai sec-e9/9z YES

xc-mini/dolphin YES

cuts car keys

kukai sec-e9/9z YES

xc-mini/dolphin YES

cuts house keys by code

kukai sec-e9 YES

xc-mini/dolphin NO cannot…….

can do engraving

kukai sec-e9/9z YES

xc-mini/dolphin NO

work with your phone

kukai sec-e9: No

Xhorse dolphin: YES

Has option for battery

kukai sec- E9/E9z: No

Xhorse dolphin: YES

Dolphin is half price than E9 and do much less than kukai sec- E9

can cut dimple keys (xhorse cant do)

can cut tubular keys (xhorse cant do)

can cut house keys(xhorse cant do)

can cut old GM 6 cut single side key(xhorse cant do)

can cut cabinet key y11 to code (xhorse cant do)

can engrave key with phone/logo whatever(xhorse cant do)

If you make 70 keys for Mercedes with free tokens Dolphin comes free

ok now here is where they get you tho the clamps and extras

High Security Automotive Clamp and BONUS: HU66 Clamp for VW, Audi and Porsche

so you get two clamps

and there are a few more

engraving clamp 300

single sided clamp 200

home dimple clamp 300

tubular key clamp 195

tibbe key clamp 150

mercedes h64 clamp 99

hu162t vw clamp 99

one side toy2 adapter 99

sip22 fca adapter 99

and another 100 in cutters for those

that’s almost another 1700 dollars in extra clamps you would need to get to kit this out

xhorse has the m3 jaw and the m4 jaw.

And more…

xhorse Dolphin test reports:

1. I have it. Till now cut hu64 keys and a couple of sip22 from fiat, 1 hu66 and work ok

2. It doesn’t need constant internet connection.

internet is need only to register app and login APp , and download database
then you can be offline
also if you cut one side key , after Dolphin start cutting , you can disconnect tablet / phone and it will finish cut
if you have 2 side key , and you disconnect tablet / phone during key cutting , Dolphin will cut one side , and to start cut another side you need reconnect.

Xhorse Dolphin in stock here:

http://www.vvdishop.com/wholesale/xhorse-condor-xc-dolphin-key-cutting-machine.html

Enjoy.

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Xhorse VVDI MB Software Update to V4.9.0

Xhorse VVDI MB BGA Tool Mercedes Benz key programmer software update to V4.9.0 on June 20th, 2019.

***2019-06-20
***    Require firmware V4.5.0
**************************************************  **********************
=====    BENZ V4.9.0            =====
1. This update no need update the firmware
2. Add new type for calculate password while all key lost:
a. Support W230 get key password with VVDI MB Power Adapter (All KEY LOST, 20 minutes-1 hour)
b. Support W169 type 2 get key password with VVDI MB Power Adapter (All KEY LOST, 15 minutes)
c. Support W169 type2 get key password with slow method
d.Support W164/W251 2004-2008(NEC chip)get key password withVVDIMB Power Adapter(All KEY LOST, 30 minutes)
3. Support write Mark value to NEC key from IR
4. Support write VIN to HC08/HC12 EIS(Kline)
5. Bugfix

Free Download VVDI MB V4.9.0 Software

https://public-ap-southeast-1-1251058331.s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/download/product/vvdi-mb/software/VVDI-MBTOOLV4.9.0_password123456.rar

http://www.vvdishop.com/info/vvdi-mb-tool-software-update-to-v4.9.0-21285.html

VVDI MB failed to read W164 EIS password?

Question:

I have a 2008 donor w164 eis that I need to be renewed to install in another 08 car

Those 08 can’t be read by vvdiprog. Board isn’t listed.

Can’t use power adapter . Only 09+

So my only hope is to insert IR a million times in eis to get password. But I always get error data acquisition failed 258 after a few inserts. See picture.

Any idea what that means ??

Solution:

It is possible to do all key lost with that type of EIS.

Easy job for 30 minutes with little reinsert IR plug.  After every error reconnect usb cable and go again.

 Soon will be available automatic method in VVDI MB tool.

Which tool can renew Mercedes Benz ECU?

Aim for Mercedes ECU renew/virgin, mostly on sim271de/ke20, me9.7. 6, and then Mercedes ECU renew tool is recommended.

MB ECU renew tool recommendation:

1. MBrenew: NO

Doesn’t read W204/212 sim271 ecu. Only certain models will read.

2. Original avdi:

Does almost everything with ease.

3. Xhorse VVDI MB

My uncle has vvdi he can do many renewal work. I am not sure which ecu it can but yes even vvdi can do many stuff.

my suggestion to you is if possible to extend your budget then buy vvdi 2, I am sure u will be happy. for token point, yes it has a token system but there is an unlimited token option too. It can do many brands, make keys, renew keys and many more options.

And here VVDI MB “Renew ECU/Gearbox” option

Some models will read, try and you will know.

4. j2534 passthru with mb service:

A j2534 passthru and pay for mb service https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

5. Need Simplediag interface hw + SD03 function to read service hash…and make units renew with Erase pass https://simplediag.ru/simplediag/ … and also need
   100% calculation success from sonder -> dealer password for renew
6. Extreme MB tools – https://simplediag.ru/embt/ to calculate from Service hash -> calculate Erase pass
7. CGDI MB can renew TCU ECU ISM DSM ESM as well

To be continued…

Have fun.

VVDI, Simon Touch and Abrites which is better

Purpose: need a good tool for Mercedes-Benz to work and repair, like do keys, repair EZS, ELV, program VIN on modules, and all that stuff..

Tools advised:

VVDI MB BGA Tool

Simon Tools MB Clinic

Abrites AVDI

Vote abrites & Simon touch ESL doctor

I will advise purchasing the Mercedes functions for abrites with protag and Simon touch ESL doctor for enabled ESL NEC MCU and nothing more. Avdi cannot enable NEC ESL blocked that’s why you need ESL doctor.

Simon touch will erase china keys but you need to mod the ir reader cut a track and supply external  power to the pcb.

Vote VVDI MB:

1) me abritus is one piece of sheet tool. I use this tool more then 10 years   every day this tool is more and more bad. support is useless and license is so expensive and they don’t work like should work.

now I’m using vvdi is 100 times better tool and support is good. price can’t compare.

2) Enabling ESL that doesn’t exist on AVDI i use it on MB tool, brief I use MB tool to program Simon touch emultors and ESL or to enable also I do a lot of keys and get the password from key, also i work on AVDI to extract password from EIS.
3) Repair ELV NEC make keys have function RENEW and WORK 100% testing.

Those who have AVDI, VVDI MB, SimonTouch:

AVDI is very good support and really everything works from the stated, very good product.

AVDI perfect tool but price is….not real price expensive tool for pass mercedes need you 20 min to 1h wotk but very slow

VVDI MB is also not a bad product, I never had issue with their support . The only negative is the use of tokens.

SimonTouch is very poorly supported, many problems arise in the work and many functions do not work because the MB clinic is still only an advertisement, they don’t sell it yet, a very raw product.

Hope it helps you decide which are suitable for you.

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